Does grammar really matter when we learn English

Does grammar really matter when we learn English?

We need to make a distinction between "grammar" and "speaking correctly".

Since language consists of grammar (subject, verb, etc) you have to learn it, one way or another.
The question is how.

Let me quote something from the Antimoon website:
"A lot of people think it’s more important to improve your fluency than to improve your correctness.
If you follow this path, after some time you may find you can speak the language with ease, but it will be largely your own version of the language — not correct language as it’s spoken by native speakers.
In other words, you may become quite fluent in speaking the wrong way.

Perhaps such a state is more desirable than not speaking at all.
But when bad grammar comes to your mind so easily, it becomes very difficult to improve.
When you’ve been saying things like “He go away” for the last two years, it’s not so easy to start saying “He went away” all of a sudden.

The point is that it’s hard to go from “fluency with mistakes” to “fluency without mistakes”.
It’s much easier to start with “careful, correct output” and then work on your speed to achieve “fluency without mistakes”.

Related answers:
“It is OK to make mistakes”

There are two meanings of the word “grammar” and the answers given here are contradicting each other because they are confusing the two.

One is the underlying system of a language.
That, speakers learn subconsciously.
Their brain picks up on patterns and generates correct sentences and rejects wrong ones.

Figuring out what that is — is why linguists like me get paid the big bucks.
(That part is irony.
You have to know that one, because otherwise you’re just putting together words in ways that make no sense.
You can’t form sentences.

The other is how teachers have attempted to codify that system.
That is a set of “rules.
” Generally, they were originally observed by linguists, and then filtered down to language teachers.
The problem is, of course, that it’s a game of Broken Telephone — lots of rules have been distorted, optional patterns have been turned into obligatory ones, markers of upper class speech that other classes do fine without have been turned into essential requirements, and really crucial patterns, people have no idea about.
They just do them.

You do not need to know those.
Because for one thing, there’s no agreement as to what they are.
Just about every textbook and every teacher takes a different subset of them.
You would just be confused.

Some of the rules are a good crutch, like “don’t put words between a verb and its direct object” or “The third person singular form of most verbs ends in s.
” Others are just plain hogwash passed down as incantations, like “Don’t split an infinitive” or “Don’t end a sentence with a preposition.
” Still others used to be valid in old forms of the language, but the language has changed and many speakers don’t actually use them, like the “who/whom” distinction.

You learn the grammar that you have to learn through exposure to the language.
A lot of exposure.
There’s no substitute for all the exposure you can get, both spoken and read, and for practice forming sentences of your own.

You do not need to learn the distorted attempt to take what is subconscious and turn it conscious.

As a professional coach, this is my stance on this issue:
I often like to use the analogy of the front wheel of a Honda motorbike – the principal personal rolling transport of the huge population in Ho Chi Minh City -  to denote English proficiency:
There are five metal spokes, extending from the revolving hub on the axle, to the metal rim of the wheel, where the rubber tyre is held firmly, as it interacts with the road.

Each spoke represent respectively the critical skill set in English proficiency:
The spokes of the wheel have to stay strong in order for the wheel to run smoothly, revolving around the hub on the axle, which represents the vocabulary and grammar, and which also needs to be well-oiled for the Honda motorbike to run efficiently in the longer run.

By the way, where the rubber meets the road, it accentuates massive usage and consistent application of the language on the part of the learner, involving real communication with real people, which ultimately leads to mastery of the English Language.

Absolutely and I can't imagine how English, or any other language, can be taught without it.
What would be left? Vocabulary?
Grammar provides the "rules," such as not using double negatives; how to pluralize words based on their ending letters (and the irregular ones); how to distinguish between "less" and "fewer;" when to use each of the various tenses; whether to use "a" or "an" before a noun; the difference between adjectives and adverbs as modifiers; and which noun preceding a form of the verb "to be" determines whether the verb is singular or plural (clue: it's not necessarily the nearest one).

The best one is not a rule, just one less thing you have to learn: English nouns do not have gender, except for the obvious ones such as man, woman, bull, hen, etc.
, and there are a few random ones: ships are feminine.

In languages that do, the genders have to be memorized – and many are random – so the appropriate forms of articles, adjectives and prounouns are selected.
If you say in French, "LE chapeau NOUVEAU est ARRIVE et IL est BEAU," it's necessary to know that "hat" is masculine which then determines what all the other words in all caps will be.
If you have not learned this non-rule, you could find yourself calling a hat "he" and a pen "she.
Syntax, as part of grammar, teaches how and in what order to put words together to form a correct and understandable sentence.
If, again, you are French and generally put the adjective after the noun (le maillot jaune) and you have not learned English grammar and syntax, in English you might end up saying "the jersey yellow," which be understood by those who watch Le Tour de France, but would be recognized as incorrect.
If you normally put the pronoun before an active verb, as "je lui vois" and you used that same word order in English, you would be saying "I him see.
" "J'ai mal a la tete" = "I have bad at the head" when you mean you "have a headache.
" If you follow French syntax for saying, "He gave me the book," "Il m'a donne le livre," it might come out in English, "He me gave the book.
The way I learned French in high school was through listening to recordings of French conversation, one sentence at a time, and repeating them until the pronunciation and syntax were pretty much stuck in my head.
Then, the grammar and vocabulary were taught.

That's the way children learn to speak: they listen and learn the structure first.
A young child might say, "He gived me the book," with the correct word order and then just has to learn the proper past tense of "give.
" He might say, "I don't got no candy," in the correct word order, and then be taught not to use double negatives (I don't got any candy) and then that forms of "do" and "have" are not used with the past tense.
"He didn't ran fast enough.
" "I have saw it many times.
So, yes, learn the grammar and syntax.
Vocabulary is then almost just "fill in the blanks.

The answer is 'Yes' as well as 'No'.
It depends on your current proficiency level and the reason behind you learning English.

When we design curriculum and learning objectives for students at WordsMaya, we focus on 'confident English' than 'correct English' if the students has very proficiency.
This is because such students need to first start communicating their thoughts in English, start thinking in English without worrying about it's correctness.
They want to start using English in their daily life.
If the student has good proficiency and can communicate in English confidently, then we start working on 'correct English'.

So, in your case, if you feel that your English proficiency is very basic then first start communicating in English through writing and speaking, read books, watch movies, start picking up basic words, sentences and expressions.
As long as you can communicate your thoughts and others can understand, it's should be fine.
If you are good with English, then focus on Grammar.
Because, now you can worry about correctness of your English as you have already crossed the first few hurdles.

There are certain pillars of foundation in a language of which one is Grammar.
I would say it is important to learn grammar while learning English.

Just knowing words is not going to help in order to form meaningful sentences in a conversation.
Grammar gives coherence.
It is possible that meaning can be conveyed even when grammar is off.
For example, Trees important is perfectly understood as Trees are important even if the verb are is missing.

Sometimes, however, sentence meanings can be ambiguous, such as I go church – this does not specify if the speaker means that he went to church, he is going to church or he goes to church habitually.
Grammar is very important to convey specific details such as time, aspect, etc.
Without this, what we articulate is incomplete.
This is one of the reasons why grammar is taught from a very young age.

However, one of the ways to learn grammar which can be more harmful than beneficial is to simply memorize the rules.
This will not teach you how to apply these rules practically.
Mastering grammar can be done only through repeated practice.

When referring to grammar in daily conversations, there are many grammatical errors which are made daily by most of the population.
These errors don’t hinder meaning.
Phrases like I didn’t went are used (though the correct form would be I didn’t go).
In such cases meaning is conveyed so the obvious question would be, why is grammar necessary here? I would like to give a very practical reason here.
When you make use of proper grammar, it gives you fluency which in turn gives you an edge over others when it comes to certain arenas of life such as job interviews.
If you later on take up a career path involving interaction with people, grammatically sound English would be a great way to impress others.

To sum it up, grammar is necessary while learning English.

On a different note, enhancing your skills in English also involves vocabulary.
Having a vast store of vocabulary can really help with improving your conversational ability.
For this you should check out the VoLT app which not only gives you a good collection of new words but also gives new methods for remembering them and using them in a sentence:
VoLT – Vocabulary Learning – Android Apps on Google Play

Of course.
A knowledge of basic grammar is certainly required to construct a meaningful sentence in English.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

For example:
Bunch if would nothing write it were just to words, down I of  a mean.

If I were to just write down a bunch of words, it would mean nothing.

If your grammar is really bad, you might have difficulty expressing what you mean, or being understood.
  Since that is the whole point of learning any language – to communicate effectively with other people – a failure to understand basic grammar rules would make that task very difficult.

However that said, you should not dwell on grammar rules excessively.
Native speakers do not have to think about grammar all the time, in fact most of the time they don't.
I'm sure it's probably the same in your own native language.

I work with a lot of people from many different countries.
Yes, it is very important to learn accurate English grammar.
There are several reasons for this:
All of the above said, there is no need to be perfect.
One of my colleagues is a graphic artist from Mexico.
Another is a computer programmer from Romania.
They are both very careful to speak clearly and understand our work.
And when they make an occasional mistake, like opening a nighttime conversation with “good night” instead of “good evening,” it is cute, and no problem.

Grammar is essential.
It is the structure of the language.
It allows us to communicate meaningfully with each other.
  The better your command on the grammar of a language the more you can do with the language.

It is the same as learning to write.
You need to learn essay structures to be good a writing essays.

The interesting question to ask is whether grammar should be taught explicitly to people learning English as a language to speak?
In response to this again I would say that grammar is essential.
Lots of our communication these days is non-verbal so we can't always rely on tone of voice and emphasis to convey what we mean.
Using grammar correctly allows us to say what we mean.

It is important that people learning the language understand the rules as well as just knowing what is right and wrong.
  Knowing and understanding the rules allows you to apply them even when you are in a situation that you haven't come across before.

It was long after each language remained in practical use that efforts were made to codify the Grammatical structure and then formulate the Rules that govern Grammar emerged.
Mostly Grammar was intended to speed up the methodical learning of the language at a faster pace.
Ironically, Grammar is perceived as the biggest stumbling block in the way of learning a language.

I had the privilege of learning three languages-Malayalam, English and Hindi, without the help of Grammar, just by reading text books in syllabus and related other books.
Again, ironically, when it came to stating grammar rules I would fare poorly, but in correcting wrong usages I would score very high.
This meant that the mind registered the correct forms of expression, without the regimentation of Grammar.
My Grammar teachers treated me like a nightmare, while the language teachers loved my writing.
So, you have your answer from me there.

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I don’t think grammar is that important outside of the academic world or those with a professional or commercial interest in promoting a fixed form of English.
I am talking about such organisations as the British Council and the various “schools of English” (that always seem to be based near Cambridge!).

English is found throughout the world, especially in business.
The object of the language is to make oneself understood and to understand others.
This has very little to do with grammar and is much more dependent on the place where you are and the related cultures.
Vocabulary is much more important than an understanding of the the future pluperfect!
Worth remembering that very few English people are ever taught grammar or even understand it.
The best of us just know what sounds right and what sounds awkward.
And, having spoken English as my mother tongue for 75 years, I will tell you that it changes very fast indeed.
Much faster than academia can keep up with!
Use the English you hear around you.
Grammar is nothing more than a social construct…

Does grammar really matter when we learn English?
I would say a big "YES".

If you can understand a language without knowing its grammar, it means you already know the langugae.

But your question is if it is required when you try to underrtand a language.

Grammar is required only to understand a languge because grammar is all about sentence tructures that you are most likely to come acrrose while reading a variety of materials in a language.

So read as much as you can, and try to comprehend the text read by you.

If you cannot understand, look for the structure, and do not study all the tenses before you encounter them in a text.

Dont study any phrase or idiom until or unless you read them in a text with context.

Happy learning!

Possibly, I think it depends on some other facts too.
People who study English as a second language start it at different ages.
Some English learners start learning English seriously at the middle age e.
30–50 years old.
They are mostly willing to study new grammar rules and it’s found that they tend to understand them better than learning the speaking skill.

On the other hand, the very young learners seem to easily absorb the English communicational environment and apply it better than adult do.
They are more likely to mimic the accent well while the older learners find it more difficult to do so.

However, strangely, the young English learners feel that grammar rules are the great barrier when it comes to the tests or school exams.

If your intention is only to learn to speak English for the purpose of travel and to be able to get around easily in English-speaking countries, then grammar need not be a concern.
However, if you will be doing business in those countries or expect to find employment in which interaction with the English-speaking world is likely or necessary, it is a very good idea to take classes in English that will teach you the structure.

I assume you are asking from the point of view of someone learning English as a foreign or second language.

If you are really immersed in English 24/7 as it were, it is possible to 'pick up' the language more or less correctly without formally being taught the grammar.

Most learners, however, have nowhere near the amount of time or level of sustained contact to learn English this way.
If you learn 'English without grammar' you are likely to have little more than part of the contents of a small tourist phrase-book; you will misunderstand a lot of what you hear at the most basic of levels, such as who or what is doing what to whom.
You won't be able to conduct an intelligent conversation and, to put it bluntly, you probably won't get much beyond the level of spick a leedle beet de lingo, yes-no?

It’s important to learn grammar in order to learn English.

In fact, it’s important to learn grammar in order to learn any language.

Without proper grammar, what you say or write may be confusing or even may convey the wrong message.
The difficulty with English is that there are many more exceptions than there are in some other languages.

But, yes, you need to learn grammar.

Updated: 17.06.2019 — 8:43 pm

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